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[ NNSquad ] Re: Misleading article by George Ou regarding cell tower radiation
Even though the title is a less than fair way to discuss my letter, I will thank you for at least bringing this important debate to the group. I think there are two important points to be made. First, Chris O'Brien like so many other cell phone fear mongers only cite the studies with a few thousand test subjects that hint at dangers which is truly misleading in my view. Citing large studies with millions of test subjects is a legitimate point to raise in this debate. What is truly misleading is when people start counting the number of studies rather than the quality and size of the studies. I've seen Lawrence Lessig use this trick in one of his video presentations. But what is more important? 10 studies with 1000 test subjects each or 1 study with millions of test subjects across different continents? Two, you state: "Ou's premise is that under normal conditions your cell phone emits more radiation when you are farther from a cell site than when you are close by. True enough, assuming power control is working properly, though I'll note that it is not uncommon for non-CDMA, non-3G systems to have poor power control implementations." I think this misses the point. Even if we assume that power control is poor, it still supports my thesis that living closer to a tower results in lower RF exposure. The power level of a weakest cell phone is still 8000 times higher than the strongest cell tower and typical values will be hundreds of thousands of times different. The real point is that under a good implementation, the only way to minimize RF exposure is the use of smaller and more densely packed cell towers. Taken to the ultimate level, every home and business would have a microcell which allows cell phones to operate in the 30 milliwatt range like Wi-Fi gear instead of the 300 milliwatt to 2000 milliwatt range. Furthermore, these smaller cell towers are easier to disguise such that they are unobtrusive visually. George Ou [ The overall universe of studies so far in this area is pretty screwy with far too few controls. They also tend not to differentiate well between different modulation schemes, power levels, phone placement vis-a-vis the body, and other aspects. The politics on both sides obscures the facts even more. My essential view on this is that we need more information, one way or the other. Better studies over longer periods of time. My gut feeling is that if there were significant health effects we'd be starting to see them at statistically obvious levels, but RF biology is not my area of expertise. Again, we need more and better data. My argument is that you appeared to be completely discounting cell tower radiation simply because it is at lower levels than the average cell phone, and even though the former impacts non-cell phone users. In reality, power levels very close to towers are quite significant, over a broader frequency range (given that they tend to be running many multiple channels at once, vs. your phone that is only doing one at once). Granted, CDMA and other spread spectrum tech muddies this, but *overall* the power density very near a major tower can be very high over a relatively broad range of "channels." Is this significant from a health standpoint? I know one family who lives on the top floor of a building with a major tower right above them. The power levels there are quite impressive. Does this matter more than a phone pressed against the cheek -- or at the waist with a bluetooth transceiver in the ear? I don't know the answer. But I do feel that you did a disservice by completely deemphasizing the cell tower side of the equation, and utterly dismissing exposure to non-cell phone users by tower facilities. > The real point is that under a good implementation, the only way > to minimize > RF exposure is the use of smaller and more densely packed cell > towers. Agreed. > Taken to the ultimate level, every home and business would have a microcell > which allows cell phones to operate in the 30 milliwatt range like Wi-Fi > gear instead of the 300 milliwatt to 2000 milliwatt range. Furthermore, > these smaller cell towers are easier to disguise such that they are > unobtrusive visually. Given sufficient backhaul bandwidth, and nonpredatory pricing, this could be desirable, and might take us back toward more of the "mesh" concepts that have been tried in the past. But centralization of facilities provides more control and often better cost containment. The backhaul problem is a toughie, as is ongoing maintenance of distributed facilities and the availability of alternative facilities when a local node or its connectivity fails. -- Lauren Weinstein NNSquad Moderator ] -----Original Message----- From: nnsquad-bounces+george_ou=lanarchitect.net@nnsquad.org [mailto:nnsquad-bounces+george_ou=lanarchitect.net@nnsquad.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Weinstein Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 4:30 PM To: nnsquad@nnsquad.org Subject: [ NNSquad ] Misleading article by George Ou regarding cell tower radiation Misleading article by George Ou regarding cell tower radiation - - - Living closer to a cell tower means lower RF exposure: http://bit.ly/9uS7bo (Digital Society) - - - Lauren's comments: I'm forwarding this misleading item from George Ou not because I want to get into a discussion of the continuing controversies regarding the health effects (or non-effects) of microwave radiation on human biology. Despite Ou's simplistic assertion about millions of test subjects, the fact is that tests to date continue to yield conflicting results -- and true longitudinal studies are few and far between. While it is generally assumed that non-ionizing radiation doesn't create biological effects beyond "simple heating" -- and studies to date tend to cluster perceived effects very close to statistical "noise" levels, the general consensus is that we still have much to learn in this area. But Ou's piece is an excellent example of a misleading presentation, through his omission (purposely or not) of a key factor. Ou's premise is that under normal conditions your cell phone emits more radiation when you are farther from a cell site than when you are close by. True enough, assuming power control is working properly, though I'll note that it is not uncommon for non-CDMA, non-3G systems to have poor power control implementations. But you'll note the hook to Ou's piece was protests about a proposed cell tower near schools. Therein is the clue to the misdirection in Ou's article. Ou has chosen to draw comparisons between the radiation received from a cell tower, vs. the radiation received from a cell phone. But of course, when you are near a cell tower, you receive radiation from that tower *whether you are using a cell phone or not*. And when you use a cell phone near a cell tower, you receive radiation *both* from the cell phone and the cell tower. True, you're very likely receiving much more radiation from the phone than the tower, while the phone is *actively* in use. But what if you're not a cell phone user? Or you hardly use a cell phone? Or you're too young to have a cell phone? Or ... Obviously, if you live near that tower you're getting more radiation than you would if you weren't living near it, whether you use a cell phone or not. Parents of primary school children with a nearby cell tower aren't likely concerned with comparisons with cell phone radiation, they're concerned with the radiation exposure that all persons in the vicinity are being exposed to from the tower in absolute terms -- not relative to cell phone radiation levels. You can choose not to use a cell phone. But if you're a child in school, you can't choose not to accept the radiation from a nearby tower. Now, it may well be the case that time will demonstrate that indeed there are no negative health effects from these transmissions, either from cell towers (which tend to run at relatively high power levels), or from microcells (which tend to run at lower levels), or from cell phones (which indeed produce high field intensities when on calls, due to their proximity to the body). And there is a continuing conflict between cell phone users' demands for better coverage vs. protests over the placement of cell sites. But Ou's tactic in this case of using comparative RF levels between towers and phones, neglecting the entire category of persons near towers who are (for example) not cell phone users, demonstrably undercuts his argument that "When a cell tower is closer to you, you're effectively exposed to much lower levels of radio frequency." Good try, George. --Lauren-- Lauren Weinstein (lauren@vortex.com) http://www.vortex.com/lauren Tel: +1 (818) 225-2800 Co-Founder, PFIR (People For Internet Responsibility): http://www.pfir.org Co-Founder, NNSquad (Network Neutrality Squad): http://www.nnsquad.org Founder, GCTIP (Global Coalition for Transparent Internet Performance): http://www.gctip.org Founder, PRIVACY Forum: http://www.vortex.com Member, ACM Committee on Computers and Public Policy Lauren's Blog: http://lauren.vortex.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/laurenweinstein Google Buzz: http://bit.ly/lauren-buzz