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[ NNSquad ] Re: Garmin: The Shocking Costs of "Free" Navigation and Billable Events
The question is why they aren't using a SIM card with a Europe-wide data plan? Or at least a SIM cards for the countries involved. It would behoove the Android guys or Google to provide information on how to buy such SIMs. Sure it would be silly to have to swap SIM cards at the border but that's just a symptom of irrationality to trying to force bits into the telecom business model. But it's even sillier to have to be counting the number of bits my apps are exchanging behind my back. I feel that the Android Guys' advice is a bit disingenuous in touting a general purpose device and then telling you to be hyperaware of the bits being used. After all you're probably going to want to listen to Pandora traveling through tunnels and past wheat fields. Or perhaps your nav app will provide reach information using VNC to your passengers' screens. Conversely why not just use a program like Co-Pilot that stores the complete road maps for Europe on your SIM card (I have both Europe and North America) so you don't need to be tethered to the cloud. This allows you to make opportunistic use of hotspots for updates -- until we have ambient connectivity just make sure your route passes a Starbucks now and then. Or you can do what Garmin implies -- have an accounting relationship for each application in each device in each place negotiated by a provider to whom you are tethered. I'm sure Garmin would be happy to collect the monthly fees instead of letting the carriers have all the fun. [ Technical correction, Co-Pilot maps aren't stored on the SIM card, they're typically stored on the SD card, but we all knew what you meant. There are a number of issues. Co-Pilot is an excellent app, but is relatively pricey (last time I checked, $30 for the Android version). Google Navigation is free of course, and has the advantage of being opportunistically available (that is, you don't have to plan ahead, buy Co-Pilot, and do the very significantly-sized Copilot map corpus download). Alternatively, any nav app that depends on downloaded data will typically need to deal with the issues referenced below -- data costs must be considered, along with data link availability and sometimes map pre-loading issues. There have been a number of times where I've unexpectedly gotten lost in canyon and mountain areas around L.A. where no cell coverage was available -- in such a case stand-alone GPS is naturally very useful. What this all amounts to is that both the free cloud-based and stand-alone GPS have their roles and differing advantages and disadvantages in varying contexts, and it's very important that consumers understand these. As for very high data roaming cost issues vs. use of local SIMs to avoid excessive data charges ... I think it's fair to say that U.S. carriers haven't exactly been bending over backwards to proactively educate their subscribers about such topics, for obvious reasons. -- Lauren Weinstein NNSquad Moderator ] -----Original Message----- From: nnsquad-bounces+nnsquad=bobf.frankston.com@nnsquad.org [mailto:nnsquad-bounces+nnsquad=bobf.frankston.com@nnsquad.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Weinstein Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2010 21:22 To: nnsquad@nnsquad.org Subject: [ NNSquad ] Garmin: The Shocking Costs of "Free" Navigation Garmin: The Shocking Costs of "Free" Navigation http://bit.ly/b8az4C (Business Wire) In this press release, Garmin (maker of standalone GPS units) warns of potentially high data costs associated with using phone-based navigation systems that depend on downloaded route data (in the case of their tests, Google Navigation). Worth noting (even in this era of newly capped domestic data plans) is that Garmin's numbers appear to be worst case scenarios based on roaming data charges. "Android Guys" has an article that discusses the Garmin announcement, and notes several mitigating factors and other issues that make the Garmin release considerably less dramatic in context: http://bit.ly/9Ijuip (Android Guys) --Lauren-- NNSquad Moderator