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[ NNSquad ] Re: Will the Phone Industry Need a Bailout, Too?
----- Forwarded message from David Farber <dave@farber.net> ----- Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 18:29:55 -0400 From: David Farber <dave@farber.net> Subject: [IP] Re: Will the Phone Industry Need a Bailout, Too? - Bits Blog - NYTimes.com Reply-To: dave@farber.net To: ip <ip@v2.listbox.com> Begin forwarded message: From: "Bruce Kushnick" <bruce@newnetworks.com> Date: May 12, 2009 5:54:18 PM EDT To: <dave@farber.net> Subject: RE: [IP] Re: Will the Phone Industry Need a Bailout, Too? - Bits Blog - NYTimes.com From: "David P. Reed" <dpreed@reed.com> > In Nynex territory, they did not "overbuild" copper. They instead > built out minimalistic fiber plant to support the growth in landlines, > creating a network based on SLC's concentrating phone lines into 64kb/ > sec digital channels carried over the absolute minimum that could be > carried over a single fiber from the SLC cabinet. What happened throughout the US is that NYNEX et al claimed they were rolling out fiber starting in 1992. In fact, the entire original UNE-p (*wholesale rates) in New York was based on 100% fiber completed, which was part of plan NYNEX gave the New York PUC --- A complaint was filed in 1999(?) when it became apparent that New York Tel wasn't upgrading as told to the PUC. In MA, here's a summary -- they claimed they would have 330,000 lines by 2000, and have the entire territory finished by 2010... They also filed video dialtone applications for MA and RI. http://www.newnetworks.com/Massachusettsdeceptivefiber.htm Here's a page from the original MA-NYNEX filing -- http://www.newnetworks.com/massfiberfailurepage2.htm And, in every state, NYNEX got the laws changed to give them more money to upgrade THE PUBLIC SWITCHED TELEPHONE NETWORKS TO FIBER! --AS common carriage. The idea that no regulator in any state has ever gone after the money, or that they now sit here and watch as the upgrade networks are closed for personal use of the AT&T and Verizon is, well... And, the number of lines is not in the kind of decline that the article or the companies would like you to imagine... http://www.newnetworks.com/Accesslines.htm As we show, Verizon and AT&T are manipulating the line counts -- not counting broadband, special access and other lines --- the only loss' is the actual copper -- So Verizon's largest 'competitor' is Verizon's own FIOS!. B ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ----- End forwarded message -----