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[ NNSquad ] Re: Effects of bandwidth restrictions (from IP)
Isn't practical? I do it on a regular basis. At the moment I'm actually using my Comcast connection more than my 20/20 FiOS because the ActionTec router seems to be problematic but 20/20 will soon seem like the slow lane. $100 actually buys 1TB these days but it's not the same as continuous offsite backup. Also remember that a digital camera can easily fill up a 32GB SD card -- I should not worry about uploading a few hours worth of video to a studio on a daily basis. Especially if the studio is in the same town as I am so the bits don't have to incur peering bills for the provider. -----Original Message----- From: nnsquad-bounces+nnsquad=bobf.frankston.com@nnsquad.org [mailto:nnsquad-bounces+nnsquad=bobf.frankston.com@nnsquad.org] On Behalf Of George Ou Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 19:36 To: 'Bob Frankston'; 'Lauren Weinstein'; nnsquad@nnsquad.org Subject: [ NNSquad ] Re: Effects of bandwidth restrictions (from IP) You're changing the subject Bob. I didn't say I liked the Time Warner 40GB plan, in fact I don't like it at all. I merely said that any talk of people not willing to download security updates is just silly. That said, backing up more than 40 GBs of data remotely over any broadband or WAN connection (excluding 20/20 FiOS or better) isn't really practical even without the usage caps. You're always going to be better off with a 500 GB USB 2.0 drive that you can get for $100 which typically operate at 240 Mbps. George -----Original Message----- From: Bob Frankston [mailto:Bob19-0501@bobf.frankston.com] Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 4:11 PM To: 'George Ou'; 'Lauren Weinstein'; nnsquad@nnsquad.org Subject: RE: [ NNSquad ] Re: Effects of bandwidth restrictions (from IP) But if I want to recover the 130GB I have backed up remotely that means I need to wait over three months? -----Original Message----- From: nnsquad-bounces+nnsquad=bobf.frankston.com@nnsquad.org [mailto:nnsquad-bounces+nnsquad=bobf.frankston.com@nnsquad.org] On Behalf Of George Ou Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 18:31 To: 'Lauren Weinstein'; nnsquad@nnsquad.org Subject: [ NNSquad ] Re: Effects of bandwidth restrictions (from IP) This is starting to get really silly. We're looking at about 40 MBs for Windows update per month which is 1000 smaller than Time Warner's 40GB cap. [ Don't fail to account (no pun intended) for the psychological aspects of caps. In many areas of life -- not just technology-related ones -- it's long been recognized that people do not necessarily react to perceived limits in completely logical ways. It is not at all unreasonable to postulate that many persons will cut back on what they consider to be "expendable" downloads (e.g. routine OS and application updates) rather than reduce their movie downloading. This is likely to be true even when the combination of both wouldn't actually exceed the cap. All manner of unanticipated consequences likely lurk with bandwidth caps being imposed on previously "unmetered" services. -- Lauren Weinstein NNSquad Moderator ] -----Original Message----- From: nnsquad-bounces+george_ou=lanarchitect.net@nnsquad.org [mailto:nnsquad-bounces+george_ou=lanarchitect.net@nnsquad.org] On Behalf Of Lauren Weinstein Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2008 3:16 PM To: nnsquad@nnsquad.org Cc: lauren@vortex.com Subject: [ NNSquad ] Effects of bandwidth restrictions (from IP) ------- Forwarded Message From: David Farber <dave@farber.net> To: "ip" <ip@v2.listbox.com> Subject: [IP] bandwidth restrictions redux Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:57:12 -0400 Begin forwarded message: From: DV Henkel-Wallace <gumby@henkel-wallace.org> Date: October 29, 2008 4:17:07 PM EDT To: David Farber <dave@farber.net> Subject: bandwidth restrictions redux Since bandwidth restrictions have started coming into place I have seen comments from people on the net saying that they cannot or will not download software updates because of their provider's bandwidth cap. Not from people complaining politically but just ordinary users (e.g. see various comments on the macintouch site). I presume this will increase the chance of security patches not being downloaded. Since it's an ill wind that blows no good I guess I've also seen the upside: people complaining about heavy web pages and the use of flash. Really, if bandwidth caps eliminate flash, can we really complain? - ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------- End of Forwarded Message