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[ NNSquad ] "IP Traceback" Confusion
------- Forwarded Message From: David Farber <dave@farber.net> To: "ip" <ip@v2.listbox.com> Subject: [IP] OK-- who is saying what. Either Declan is mis-reporting or Tony is wrong or both are partilaly right or wrong. Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:09:49 -0400 A United Nations agency is quietly drafting technical standards, proposed by the Chinese government, to define methods of tracing the original source of Internet communications and potentially curbing the ability of users to remain anonymous. The U.S. National Security Agency is also participating in the "IP Traceback" drafting group, named Q6/17, which is meeting next week in Geneva to work on the traceback proposal. Members of Q6/17 have declined to release key documents, and meetings are closed to the public. The potential for eroding Internet users' right to remain anonymous, which is protected by law in the United States and recognized in international law by groups such as the Council of Europe, has alarmed some technologists and privacy advocates. Also affected may be services such as the Tor anonymizing network. "What's distressing is that it doesn't appear that there's been any real consideration of how this type of capability could be misused," said Marc Rotenberg, director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center in Washington, D.C. "That's really a human rights concern." U.N. agency eyes curbs on Internet anonymity | Politics and Law - CNET News URL: http://news.cnet.com/8301-13578_3-10040152-38.html?tag=nl.e703 A United Nations telecommunications agency is drafting a proposal called 'IP traceback' and has scheduled a meeting next week. Its potential impact on anonymity is raising alarms. Read this blog post by Declan McCullagh on News - Politics and Law. Begin forwarded message: From: David Farber <dave@farber.net> Date: September 11, 2008 1:15:20 PM EDT To: "ip" <ip@v2.listbox.com> Subject: [IP] Network design and operations, not political agenda Reply-To: dave@farber.net Begin forwarded message: From: Tony Rutkowski <trutkowski@verisign.com> Date: September 11, 2008 12:59:21 PM EDT To: David Farber <dave@farber.net> Subject: Network design and operations, not political agenda A blog note was recently circulated alleging that an "An ITU study group is apparently considering a proposal for network traceback that includes the following among its rationales [quote on limiting political expression]." The allegation is not true. I personally helped facilitate the consideration and adoption of the work item at the April meeting of ITU-T Study Group 17 (security). Concerns relating both to effective network management and well as providing a means for international caller-ID were amalgamated to create a new work item shepherded by editors from the U.S., China, Japan, and Korea. The underlying requirements relate to network management, settlements, infrastructure protection, and law enforcement support that pretty much exist worldwide, and include ongoing proceedings and legislation in the U.S. Congress, the FCC, the European Commission, and others worldwide. Minimally, the work will pull together valuable information concerning techniques, platforms, and development needs. It has no normative stature. The international caller-ID capability would be a nice feature for telephony. The political motivation text was not part of any known ITU-T proposal and certainly not the one which I helped facilitate. Extensive searches for the source of the text have yet revealed nothing. - --tony - ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com - ------------------------------------------- Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/247/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/247/ Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com ------- End of Forwarded Message