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[ NNSquad ] Re: Catch-22 for sending email
On 12/22/07, Dave Kristol <dmk-nnsquad@kristol.org> wrote: > It would be nice if Comcast were a bit more transparent in this case. I'll be > interested to get other ISPs' side of this. I'm not an ISP, but I'm with Comcast on not giving out the address of the complainer -- if it really was a complainer (they could have accidentally hit the "Report Spam" button while your party e-mail was selected). The reason abuse desks generally do not give out the address of complainers as it promotes something known as "Listwashing." Spammers "wash" their lists by removing the addresses of people known to complain. By removing these names, they reduce the chance that all of their email will be dropped at the distant ISP, and they also reduce the chance of getting a phone call from their own ISP. Some ISPs that do give out the addresses are suspected of facilitating Listwashing by spamfighters, who then escalate their anti-spam efforts upstream of that ISP. You did get caught in a Catch-22. I would ignore this event, however, if I were you. It sounds like a mistake on the part of one of your invitees. -- Robb Topolski (robb@funchords.com) Hillsboro, Oregon USA http://www.funchords.com/ [ If you don't know who complained, you can't effectively deal with the situation when people inappropriately mark a message as spam. Once in a blue moon someone will tag one of my PFIR or PRIVACY Forum postings as spam with AOL. I'm signed up with a system at AOL where they send me a notice of the "complaint" along with the original message. While they delete most of the addressee information, enough timestamp and other data remains in the message for me to easily detect which user on the list complained -- and I immediately delete them. Problem solved. Not providing any info about who complained is unacceptable. -- Lauren Weinstein NNSquad Moderator ]