[ NNSquad ] Re: Comments on NNSquad Purpose

["Fred Reimer" <freimer@ctiusa.com>]

I'd agree with everything except the statement that VoIP
generally needs no prioritization, even if congestion does not
"exist" in the network.  The sticky point is that caveat about
congestion.  Any traffic other than VoIP can cause issues,
depending on the network.

Fred Reimer, CISSP, CCNP, CQS-VPN, CQS-ISS
Senior Network Engineer
Coleman Technologies, Inc.
954-298-1697




-----Original Message-----
From: nnsquad-bounces+freimer=ctiusa.com@nnsquad.org
[mailto:nnsquad-bounces+freimer=ctiusa.com@nnsquad.org] On Behalf
Of Andrew C Burnette
Sent: Thursday, November 08, 2007 4:17 PM
To: nnsquad@nnsquad.org
Subject: [ NNSquad ] Re: Comments on NNSquad Purpose

Brett,

With all due respect of course,

Filesharing in and of itself is neither abusive, nor unlawful.
Plain and
simple.  That's a glass of poisoned koolaid none of us should
drink
around here.

Neither is it against Comcast (or Verizon's) ToS, or AUP. They
(comcast
and others) only forbid transmission of copyrighted materials for
which
you have no right of redistribution. (e.g. sharing linux
distribution
ISO's are perfectly legal, as are numerous "free of restrictions"
video
and music files)

http://www.comcast.net/terms/use.jsp?cookieattempt=1

http://www.verizon.net/policies/popups/tos_popup.asp

Yes, there are plenty of users out there who do violate those
terms, but
I along with many others, do not.  I don't think it's fair to the
community to classify one particular application as harmful or
unlawful.

Comcast's *forging* of packets goes much further than throttling
of
bandwidth (Optimum online and plenty of other ISP's will throttle
your
overall speed in general if you're a heavy user on their network
but
most don't send forged packets falsely indicating the other end
of the
connection has vanished).

VoIP generally needs no prioritization, unless congestion exists
in the
network.

Cheers,
andy

Brett Glass wrote:
> At 11:48 PM 11/7/2007, Robb Topolski wrote:
>  
>> While I agree that Net Neutrality has been sometimes described
as
>> preventing the situation of paying extra for higher
performance of
>> favored applications, it is not an apt description.
>>
>> Using the Comcast P2P interference as an example, in this
case,
>> Comcast has degraded the performance of a non-favored
application.
> 
> Or, from Comcast's point of view, it is preventing network
abuse and
> stopping customers from violating the terms of their contracts.
> 
> By the way, it seems to me that the first order of business on
this
> list should be to define "network neutrality." I see network
neutrality
> as remaining neutral with regard to content providers, but not
> necessarily with regard to applications. (There are good
technical
> reasons to do things like prioritize VoIP packets, for
example.)
> 
> --Brett Glass
> 
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